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« on: January 08, 2007, 07:52:55 AM » |
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Since it looks like there is plenty of support for keeping the Briarpatch going I have had some thoughts about what the next step we need to take.
To keep us from becoming to dependent on any one person we need to find a way to pay for the hosting of the Briarpatch that doesn't depend on one person. To pay for the hosting the hosting companies usually require payment by some means like a credit card or paypal. One option for this would be to have one person collect whatever donations someone wanted to make and then that person could make a payment on their credit card. That would take care of making the payment, however once again we would be back to a dependence on one person.
I believe that another option would be to use a paypal account. To get a paypal account you need some kind of bank account. It should be possible to set up a bank account for the group. I know that some self-help groups do this. So if we could set up such an account we could then use it to get a paypal account and then use that to pay for the web hosting. So I am wondering what everybody thinks about this idea.
Once we get a way for the group to pay for the hosting the rest is fairly easy. We would only need to get the hosting and then move the Briarpatch to its new location. I have already moved this site three or four times so it should be able to be moved again.
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Butterfly
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« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2007, 08:02:42 AM » |
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The paypal account sounds like a good idea since we could set it up maybe in the name of The Briarpatch and use the donations to pay for the site. We could appoint or elect a treasurer to handle this. I'm thinking there never would be a great deal of money involved, just whatever we would need to pay for the site, even pay ahead a couple of years if it's only going to be around $60 a year.
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« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2007, 08:50:33 AM » |
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That is what I was thinking also. It would also be a way to keep the ownership of the site more in the hands of the members.
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« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2007, 09:49:23 AM » |
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I would like to address something that has come up in private conversations. I think that some members may be worried that this will be a "paid membership" site, which couldn't be further from the truth. No one will be excluded because they can't or don't contribute monitarily to run The Briarpatch. I know that some members are not able to come up with contributions because of limited income or other factors. With the yearly cost being so low, only a handful of members who are willing or able to contribute are needed to keep the site going. It seems that we have quite a few volunteers who have pledged to pay for a year's worth of service.
I think the bigger job will be to educate those with some computer knowledge, in helping to run the site. Everyone can contribute in some way, including those who post articles, provide feedback or just come here to enjoy the friendship of other members. All are still welcome and needed to make this the wonderful place it always has been and will continue to be.
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« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2007, 10:08:22 AM » |
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pesoto74
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« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2007, 11:46:26 AM » |
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I would like to second what Butterfly is saying in that this is not going to become a pay to view site. My real concern here isn't the money since for one thing it doesn't cost that much. My concern has always been that the site not become dependent on one person. I think that for the longrun it is best for any site like this to be under the control of the members. And that can't happen has long as one person or company can pull the plug on the site. I would have thought we would have learned that lesson from out experience with the Commercial News. Even if the person who is responsible for the message board has all the best intentions in the world we all know that intentions can change and also at our ages we should also realize in the worst case the person responsible could become ill or die.
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« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2007, 08:31:23 PM » |
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I know that when my son was racing in Nebraska and was receiving money from sponsers, we opened a bank account at the local bank in the name of his race team. The bank did not charge a fee for the account because it was one of the sponsers. However, I don't think that banks now days would do that.
My question is, who would open the account and would there be a monthly fee? Should we have several people who would have access so that no one person is responsible? Would there be another way to pay for the site? For instance, what if I wanted to pay for a year. Couldn't I just charge a year on my credit card? Then if someone else wanted to do the same, etc, etc ....
I guess I'm sounding like a dummy here, but I'm just thinking out loud.
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« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2007, 09:36:00 PM » |
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Not a dummy. You are asking the questions I have running thru my head. Credit card or bank account will still be only a person or two -- unless the bank account had a lot of names on it, only the one opening it would have access to forwarding the money...I am thinking out loud here. So wouldn't one person still be responsible for handling tht part of it? Would the host allow more than one of us to make a credit card payment?
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« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2007, 07:14:59 PM » |
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Not a dummy. You are asking the questions I have running thru my head. Credit card or bank account will still be only a person or two -- unless the bank account had a lot of names on it, only the one opening it would have access to forwarding the money...I am thinking out loud here. So wouldn't one person still be responsible for handling tht part of it? Would the host allow more than one of us to make a credit card payment?
Being someone who has lived outside the system for decades, I would say the answer is probably yes. It just takes persistence and finding someone who is good at listening, as opposed to being a robot. If we explain the circumstances, I'm sure we can find someone who can accommodate us. I have found that getting a phone number and talking to a real live person works best in these circumstances. Maybe we could find a service that would let our members call and pay for a year by credit card over the phone. That would eliminate passwords and bank accounts and paypal. Then Pesoto could check to see if the payment has been recorded on the account. I have done similar things with my websites. Sometimes my Apple just doesn't work in a Bill Gates world, so I resort to the old fashioned telephone. If you tell them we are dealing with a lot of older people who are computer illiterate, it helps to get sympathy! |
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« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2007, 01:06:40 PM » |
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There was an outage here for a short time yesterday and it got me to wondering if there will be anymore activity as far as a move goes.
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« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2007, 04:18:47 PM » |
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Are you still looking for another place ?
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« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2007, 10:53:38 PM » |
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I think everyone might be waiting for direction from Pesoto....... |
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« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2007, 07:18:16 PM » |
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I am out of my element, no idea how to operate a message board. But wondering, those who have interest in doing so -- any way that Pesoto could give adm co-powers to a couple of people who have interest but don't know if they have the savvy -- let them see what is involved and if they could do it before the site moves?
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« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2007, 07:25:55 PM » |
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I am out of my element, no idea how to operate a message board. But wondering, those who have interest in doing so -- any way that Pesoto could give adm co-powers to a couple of people who have interest but don't know if they have the savvy -- let them see what is involved and if they could do it before the site moves?
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« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2007, 08:18:20 PM » |
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Sorry it has taken a while to post on this. I thought I had put up some information about another host that is inexpensive and seems to get good reviews. They also had a good demo on how to run the site. I thought I had posted it on this thread, however I can't find it now. Does anyone remember seeing that information earlier?
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